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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-5509</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crosby would have more if he didnt miss the net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crosby would have more if he didnt miss the net</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Beijar</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-5195</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Beijar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[milan lucic from the bruins has 5 empty netters alreday this season alone crosby has 4 total in his lifetime...poop is right]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>milan lucic from the bruins has 5 empty netters alreday this season alone crosby has 4 total in his lifetime&#8230;poop is right</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Krundle</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2316</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Krundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fixed, Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed, Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: mistake</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator>mistake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sedin-112 points]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sedin-112 points</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Malore</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Malore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just by chance are you from Punxsutawney Phil?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just by chance are you from Punxsutawney Phil?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Malore</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Malore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the word frequently has a different meaning than it does here??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the word frequently has a different meaning than it does here??</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Malore</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Malore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What don&#039;t you understand my comment being about the owner and his blog network than it does about Ovechkin. FTR, I don&#039;t get embarrassed and the Senators beating the Penguins - shit happens.
Good luck against Montreal.  Didn&#039;t you only play .500 against them this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What don&#8217;t you understand my comment being about the owner and his blog network than it does about Ovechkin. FTR, I don&#8217;t get embarrassed and the Senators beating the Penguins &#8211; shit happens.<br />
Good luck against Montreal.  Didn&#8217;t you only play .500 against them this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Malore</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2283</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Malore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no &quot;hatred&quot; against Capitals or their fans.  I only made comment that Ted Leonsis is working full time sending out literature plus his Rock the RED blog network working OT for Ovechkin.  It&#039;s being promoted like he&#039;s in the running for the Heisman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no &#8220;hatred&#8221; against Capitals or their fans.  I only made comment that Ted Leonsis is working full time sending out literature plus his Rock the RED blog network working OT for Ovechkin.  It&#8217;s being promoted like he&#8217;s in the running for the Heisman.</p>
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		<title>By: Ovary</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>Ovary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RPAA I agree, they didn&#039;t take into consideration the record the Caps had against the strong teams when Ovary was out.  Plus they should have taken into consideration that the Caps won the Presidents trophy by playing in the worst division in the NHL and they all ran up goals and assists by playing weaker teams and had the easiest &quot;Strength of Schedule&quot; in the entire NHL.  Good Point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPAA I agree, they didn&#8217;t take into consideration the record the Caps had against the strong teams when Ovary was out.  Plus they should have taken into consideration that the Caps won the Presidents trophy by playing in the worst division in the NHL and they all ran up goals and assists by playing weaker teams and had the easiest &#8220;Strength of Schedule&#8221; in the entire NHL.  Good Point.</p>
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		<title>By: Retarded People Are Annoying</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2264</link>
		<dc:creator>Retarded People Are Annoying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The empty net stat is not very revealing. If the Pens were ahead late in the third more often they would have more empty net opportunities--perhaps Crosby would get another couple of EN&#039;s.

In any case, getting a lot of empty net goals helps the team. Teams do score with the extra attacker and getting an empty net goal seals the game for you. This is why coaches put at least 1 or 2 of their best players out when the opposing goalie is pulled.

When discussing who is the better/more valuable player, there are arguments in Crosby&#039;s favor and arguments in Ovechkin&#039;s favor...but counting empty net goals is not significant either way.

Also, those quoting the Caps&#039; record without OV as a knock against him are wrong. Winning against non-playoff or borderline teams without OV is not an indication of how the Caps would do without him against a strong team. I think the Cap&#039;s record against strong teams without OV this year is 0-2-2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The empty net stat is not very revealing. If the Pens were ahead late in the third more often they would have more empty net opportunities&#8211;perhaps Crosby would get another couple of EN&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In any case, getting a lot of empty net goals helps the team. Teams do score with the extra attacker and getting an empty net goal seals the game for you. This is why coaches put at least 1 or 2 of their best players out when the opposing goalie is pulled.</p>
<p>When discussing who is the better/more valuable player, there are arguments in Crosby&#8217;s favor and arguments in Ovechkin&#8217;s favor&#8230;but counting empty net goals is not significant either way.</p>
<p>Also, those quoting the Caps&#8217; record without OV as a knock against him are wrong. Winning against non-playoff or borderline teams without OV is not an indication of how the Caps would do without him against a strong team. I think the Cap&#8217;s record against strong teams without OV this year is 0-2-2.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stamkos only has 3 lifetime empty netters, Sedin has 5 career emptynetters but he&#039;s played for like 8 some seasons.  Ovechkin lives for empty net goals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stamkos only has 3 lifetime empty netters, Sedin has 5 career emptynetters but he&#8217;s played for like 8 some seasons.  Ovechkin lives for empty net goals.</p>
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		<title>By: jw</title>
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		<dc:creator>jw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ovechkin just cares about stacking his stats. He has no empty net assists because he would never even consider passing the puck and letting somone else get a free goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ovechkin just cares about stacking his stats. He has no empty net assists because he would never even consider passing the puck and letting somone else get a free goal.</p>
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		<title>By: nashville</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2255</link>
		<dc:creator>nashville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[let&#039;s not forget shooting percentage.  ovechkin took 70 more shots this season than crosby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s not forget shooting percentage.  ovechkin took 70 more shots this season than crosby.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so sick of Ovechkin&#039;s empty net goals, why is he on the ice in those situations when they are up two?!  Because he is so selfish, and he sits way out of the zone and cherry picks.  So if he is out there in big time defensive situations why doesn&#039;t he play D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sick of Ovechkin&#8217;s empty net goals, why is he on the ice in those situations when they are up two?!  Because he is so selfish, and he sits way out of the zone and cherry picks.  So if he is out there in big time defensive situations why doesn&#8217;t he play D.</p>
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		<title>By: I_am_I</title>
		<link>http://www.penguinpoop.com/2010/empty-net-goals-ovechkin-stamkos-crosby-sedin/#comment-2250</link>
		<dc:creator>I_am_I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicklas Backstrom has a higher point per game when Ovechkin is out as well. He has 14 point in 10 games without and 87 points in 71 games when he is in. 

If he played more games I&#039;d peg Rask for the Hart. Better GAA, SV % and Boston has less talent than Buffalo. 

Crosby plays with no talent, unlike Sedin and Ovechkin. It is a toss up between Stamkos and Crosby for how has the crappiest set of wingers, though St. Louis is better than anyone on Pittsburgh, I just don&#039;t see TB enough to know where he lines up. 

I&#039;d say Miller, Crosby and Stamkos are the finalists for Hart and any would be a worthy recipient. As much as I&#039;d like Sedin to get it for being one of the main reasons I won my hockey pool!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicklas Backstrom has a higher point per game when Ovechkin is out as well. He has 14 point in 10 games without and 87 points in 71 games when he is in. </p>
<p>If he played more games I&#8217;d peg Rask for the Hart. Better GAA, SV % and Boston has less talent than Buffalo. </p>
<p>Crosby plays with no talent, unlike Sedin and Ovechkin. It is a toss up between Stamkos and Crosby for how has the crappiest set of wingers, though St. Louis is better than anyone on Pittsburgh, I just don&#8217;t see TB enough to know where he lines up. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say Miller, Crosby and Stamkos are the finalists for Hart and any would be a worthy recipient. As much as I&#8217;d like Sedin to get it for being one of the main reasons I won my hockey pool!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all due respect to Caps fans, your &quot;goals per game&quot; stats are pretty near irrelevant to the criteria for the &quot;most valuable&quot; player award.  What makes Ovechkin&#039;s &quot;goals per game&quot; stats higher than Crosby&#039;s is that Ovechkin was suspended a good number of games.  Does that make him more &quot;valuable&quot; to his team?  No - in fact, the opposite is true.   The real relevance of Ovechkin&#039;s suspensions is how good an indication they were of his actual &quot;value&quot; to his team by showing exactly what happens to the Caps when he doesn&#039;t play. Guess what - the Caps won almost every game Ovechkin was suspended.  In fact, the Caps won a much higher percentage of their games when Ovechkin didn&#039;t play than they did when he did play.  Obviously, the best measure of how valuable a player is to his team is what happens if he&#039;s not there.  By that measure, Sedin, Crosby, Miller, and Stamkos are all much more valuable than Ovechkin to their team. Take Miller out of the equation, for example, and Buffalo probably wins a quarter to a third fewer games, easy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to Caps fans, your &#8220;goals per game&#8221; stats are pretty near irrelevant to the criteria for the &#8220;most valuable&#8221; player award.  What makes Ovechkin&#8217;s &#8220;goals per game&#8221; stats higher than Crosby&#8217;s is that Ovechkin was suspended a good number of games.  Does that make him more &#8220;valuable&#8221; to his team?  No &#8211; in fact, the opposite is true.   The real relevance of Ovechkin&#8217;s suspensions is how good an indication they were of his actual &#8220;value&#8221; to his team by showing exactly what happens to the Caps when he doesn&#8217;t play. Guess what &#8211; the Caps won almost every game Ovechkin was suspended.  In fact, the Caps won a much higher percentage of their games when Ovechkin didn&#8217;t play than they did when he did play.  Obviously, the best measure of how valuable a player is to his team is what happens if he&#8217;s not there.  By that measure, Sedin, Crosby, Miller, and Stamkos are all much more valuable than Ovechkin to their team. Take Miller out of the equation, for example, and Buffalo probably wins a quarter to a third fewer games, easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you kidding Ron Malore?-Caps have a great fan base!Caps are more than just Ovi this year, they are a team full of power.I&#039;m a Caps fan in Canada and i love Ovi-he is great for the NHL, but congrats to Crosby on his gold medal and for winning(tying) for the Rocket this year.This year we are more than just Ovi is all im saying. when hes out-we still win. Good luck with the Sens-i saw them embarass you at in Ottawa this year-they are tough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding Ron Malore?-Caps have a great fan base!Caps are more than just Ovi this year, they are a team full of power.I&#8217;m a Caps fan in Canada and i love Ovi-he is great for the NHL, but congrats to Crosby on his gold medal and for winning(tying) for the Rocket this year.This year we are more than just Ovi is all im saying. when hes out-we still win. Good luck with the Sens-i saw them embarass you at in Ottawa this year-they are tough.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianTD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That button on the calculator probably reads: &quot;FIGURE IN SUSPENSIONS FOR CHEAP SHOTS&quot;  I want to know if the calculator has a STEROID tester on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That button on the calculator probably reads: &#8220;FIGURE IN SUSPENSIONS FOR CHEAP SHOTS&#8221;  I want to know if the calculator has a STEROID tester on it.</p>
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